Subscribe

Size matters: Gundlach says DoubleLine will cap assets around $100 billion

Star fund manager says he doesn't want to resort to 'shadow markets' like derivatives.

Jeffrey Gundlach may be one of the biggest stars in money management today, but he plans to keep the size of his firm in check.

Mr. Gundlach doesn’t see DoubleLine Capital LLC, the asset management firm he founded in 2009, growing to more than about $100 billion in assets under management total, he said yesterday during a presentation for financial advisers at the New York Yacht Club.

The firm currently manages around $52 billion, about $40 billion of which is in its flagship total-return strategy.

The main reason Mr. Gundlach would shutter the fund to new investors is that he doesn’t want to have to resort to using derivatives to access markets.

“In fixed income, you should not be investing in shadow markets,” he said. “Everything we own is publicly traded. There’re no derivatives and no counterparty risk.”

He sees the $40 billion DoubleLine Total Return Fund (DBLTX) being forced to close at around $100 billion maximum, but it could close sooner.

“In 2009, we could have managed up to $1 trillion, but the environment’s not what it used to be,” he said. “Now it will never grow to $100 billion and probably not even $75 billion.”

Mr. Gundlach is keeping a close eye on the size DoubleLine’s newly christened equity division, as well. The recently launched DoubleLine Equities Small Cap Growth Fund (DBESX) has a maximum size of around $2 billion, Mr. Gundlach said.

He has plans to launch more equity funds, and two others already have been approved by the Securities and Exchange Commission, but all-in, Mr. Gundlach sees that part of the business topping out at around $10 billion.

“Equity funds in general shouldn’t manage more than $10 billion,” he said. “You can’t buy $1 billion worth of stock and think you’re going to get out of it.”

He pointed out fallen star managers Bill Miller and John Paulson as investors who grew too big to succeed.

DoubleLine also offers a hedge fund, with more planned, as well, but those strategies are naturally limited in size, so that will top out at around $10 billion too, Mr. Gundlach predicted.

Learn more about reprints and licensing for this article.

Recent Articles by Author

Who will be alts’ best in show?

The demand for liquid alternatives has never been higher, and it is drawing in a pack of money managers who are all vying to be leaders of the pack.

One year on, iShares’ Core series clawing back market share for BlackRock

One year on, iShares' Core series is clawing back market share for BlackRock as price cuts, rebranding helps firm recover from case of “Vanguarditis.”

American Funds to expand sales force aggressively

The sales team will increase over the next six to eight months to help the company cope with the evolving adviser business model, said Matt O'Connor, director of distribution in North America.

American Funds makes push to increase transparency

Firm will share how portfolios are managed but won't reveal performance and holdings

Vanguard raked in almost every dollar that went into U.S. equity funds this year

If you bought a U.S. equity fund this year, there's about a 98% chance you invested in a fund managed by Vanguard. Jason Kephart has the story.

X

Subscribe and Save 60%

Premium Access
Print + Digital

Learn more
Subscribe to Print