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Bill Riegel: Micro's trumped macro
We think taking on stock risk is reflective of the
fact that the risk premiums in the US, in other
words, the expected return on stocks in the US versus
where bonds are trading. That's a very wide number and
it's very-- at historic levels. So what's going on is
the investors are reacting to reduce macro fears. Last year
we had the fear that Europe would break up that
we'd go over the fiscal cliff. You know, any number
of other things that go bump in them at night
and what they're really looking at this year is they're
focused on the micro. Macro is no longer as important
in terms of driving returns and that's leading investors to
look at the very, very wide risk premiums and they're
beginning to come back into the market to take advantage
of the relative or attracting this in the US stocks.
The expected return on stocks is, you know, our opinion
in the mid-single digit range over the long-term and that
again relative to fixed income as a very attractive place
to be. I think even though you hit new highs
on the Dell, on the Russell. You're closed to doing
the same thing on the SMP 500, you may well
still have good returns of the long term. We think
the returns are probably better internationally and that's where we're
funding a lot more opportunities and that's where we've been
moving money from an asset allocation perspective. Both the developed
markets in our opinion and the emerging markets have higher
expected long run returns than the US. At this point
and time, we're really finding a lot of opportunities in
Europe particularly in the financial sector and equally funding interesting
opportunities in Japan which has been doing extremely well. We
are also very focused on emerging markets but there's really
an interesting dynamic that's playing out there in that. It's
not quite clear what's going on in China. It would
appear as though that economy has beginning to slow down
some which is really not what the consensus in ourselves
we're expecting and it's having a very depressive effect on
emerging market results here today. One way to measure volatility
is what's called the Vix which is projected level of
volatility in the-- as defined for the options market. And
as-- what you're referencing is the fact that, that just
went below 12 for the first time. That [unk] of
itself is not normally a signal of the markets about
the crash any time soon. We saw all through the
period 2002 through 2008 exceptionally low periods of volatility for
very long periods of time. It is a marker when
it gets below 14 that you sort of have to
wonder whether or not you're gonna be faced with a
correction. And I think we along with a lot of
others have been expecting something like that to occur if
only because optimizing short-term trading sentiment has gotten so positive.
The fact that we haven't seen a correction is the
usual thing that happens when a lot of people including
myself get a lined with an expectation in the market
defies them but just grinding higher and up into the
right, so we've now had 10 days in a row
where the market has been up every day and we
haven't seen that since 1996 and we all know that
we got a little volatility in '96 but from that
we went to the 2000 peak. So maybe history's playing
itself out again. We thought this year was gonna look
a lot like last year in terms of total returns.
We're close to realizing that in the first quarter so,
you know, from here, it's a little bit perplexing. Absolute
evaluations are sort of slightly above long run averages econometric
activity is been very good and has been surprising to
the upside. I think what I would wanna see is
a sustained period of earnings revisions before I got whole-heartedly
bullish and we have yet to see that. Earnings have
been somewhat problematic in terms of expectations had been moving
down a little bit and you have to wonder whether
given the fact that the dollar has been so strong
whether that will lead to another round of negative for
revisions because a stronger dollar is usually problematic for multi-national
US companies which are big, big component of the US
market.
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